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KAFETAR

Lüükolös bespiki nulik

Begs dö els ,bot’ / Requests for bot flag
Ragiv nunas ela ,Wikimedia Foundation’

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Guvans[redakön fonäti]

Mobob moükami stada guvana de guvans:

Guvans at no ebinoms dunotik dü muls plu 6. Malafaya 12:03, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Veratö... Ab ba mutoy säkön omes, va viloms nog bitön as guvans. Openob bosi su bespikapads omsik (in Vükipeds votik). --Smeira 14:02, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Baicedob. Binos gudikum ad säkön omes, if sevol ladetis omsik. Begö, säkolös. (Pidob pro pük fibik oba :) ) --Malafaya 14:14, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Glidis! This is Jmb. You may remove my admin status if you want. I may be back from time to time to help out with editing pages. Fleniko, Jmb 01:39, 7 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Pük ai kanon vedön gudikum!... Ed ekö! mob votik:

Mobob gevami stada guvana ele:

Geban at ebinom vemo dunotik ün muls lätik, ed eyufom vemo ad gudükumön e jonükumön Vükipedi Volapükik (a.s. tefü koordinats e kaedil itjäfidik pro pads dö zifs vola; tefü samafomot: {{Yüm YG}}; tefü Kafetar at, keli ejafom; e r.). Üf guvans löpo pemäniotöls operoms guvanastadi oksik, jinos lü ob, das hiel Malafaya okanom plaädön omis e fövön vobi okik gönü Vükiped Volapükik mu benosekiko. --Smeira 14:47, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Emblem-ohno.svg (paskanükob) Danö pro konfid olik in ob, o Smeira! Spelob, das kanob yufön gudikumo. --Malafaya 15:35, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Cedü ob okanol nendoto! :-) Bi nek esagon bosi ta mob obik, cälob oli guvani (ä bürani) anu. Benokömö! --Smeira 17:00, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)

So suno?! Danö! Osteifülob gudikünos obik. Malafaya 17:23, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Bi no nog dabinons gebans mödik is... Ab, if ek no baicedon ko stad nulik ola, ai kanon sagön bosi is. --Smeira 19:47, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Glidis! I am Jmb
Hi Jmb! So, what are your plans? --Smeira 14:52, 7 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Jmb. You wrote above you don't mind your administrator status being removed. Thanks for the reply, Malafaya 14:55, 7 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Ebegob säguvanami gebana Jmb in m:Requests for permissions#Jmb.40vo.wikipedia. Danö. Malafaya 16:50, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)

Vilags in Lestiyän[redakön fonäti]

Soäsä pepenos in bespikapad zifa: Hageri, dabinon vo pök in pads anik tefü zifs (vilags) Lestiyänik: num: 58 (u 57 u 59) pekopiedon as lödanef, ab binon te koordinat. Suno odunob klad nulik ad konletön padis labü pök at, kelis poso okoräkob. --Smeira 14:26, 13 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Danö pro plän olik. Malafaya 15:15, 13 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Vükiped dönu petatakon![redakön fonäti]

Soäsä ba ya sevols, dabinon mob votik ta Vükiped Volapükik su Meta: m:Proposals for closing projects/Radical cleanup of Volapük Wikipedia. If labols timi, reidolsös padi moba at e keyufolsös ad taön ta mob at! --Smeira 18:23, 27 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Geb elas bots ad jafön yegedis nulik[redakön fonäti]

In bespikapad tefü m:Proposals for closing projects/Radical cleanup of Volapük Wikipedia su Meta, ya anikna pesagos, das mutobs bespikön gebi elas bots ad jafön yegedis smalik nulik ("sids", a.s. tefü zifs e vilags). Kisi cedols-li? Stütols-li gebi soik, u taols-li ta on? (Utans, kels vilons gebön pükis votik -- a.s. Linglänapüki -- dalons dunön osi.)

  • stütob. Nüns in sids at binons nemödiks, ab binons i:
a) verätiks;
b) frutiks;
c) siklopediks (patuvons in Vükipeds votik)
Zuo sids at ai kanons pagretükön fa gebans nitedälöls.

--Smeira 22:44, 27 dekul 2007 (UTC)

  • stütob, ab cedob, das mutobs gudikön yegedis at vifik, e ba no jafön yegedis nulik pluik, pato tefü zifs. Mobob ad gudikobs yegedis vipabik e votik, e jafobs pads tefü Vükiped pro Komotanef as dranöf balid.

--Malafaya 00:54, 28 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Lio gudükön onis? I me bots? Me nüns pluik, se Vükipeds votik? (l. sidis se Vükiped Nedänapükik tefü zifs Fransänik, a.s. nl:Buchères) --Smeira 10:07, 28 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Si, me bots u redakams menik. Yegeds Nedänapükik logotons gudik saidik. No glömobsös de gudükön i yegeds votik (a.s. yegeds vipabik e läns). Malafaya 11:20, 28 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Moükab[redakön fonäti]

Parametis kinik mutoy-li gebön ad sludön, va yeged bal moükabon u no? Kisi cedols-li?Which parameters should we use to decide if an article should be deleted or not? What do you think?

Mob balid: Yegeds miniludik binons uts, kels: First proposal: suspicious articles are those that:
a. klüliko papenons ad nofön votikanis; are obviously written to offend others;
b. binons kopiedots vödemas labü kopiedagitäts; are copies of copyrighted texts;
c. no labons vödemi reidabik (in Volapük ud in pük votik seimik).do not have a readable text (in Volapük or any other language)
Yegeds sömik mutons getön sunädo samafomoti: {{Moükön}}.Such articles must immediately get the template {{Moükön}} (= remove).
Lautans yegedas sömik mutons getön (su bespikapad oksik) nunedi tefü nepöt yegedas oksik.The authors of such articles must immediately get a warning (on their talk pages) about the inappropriateness of their articles.
If lautans steifülons e plöpons ad gudükön yegedis oksik, yegeds ma fomam nulik oksik kanons blibön is.If the authors try and succeed in correcting their articles, then the articles in their new version can stay here.
If lautans no geükons, u no plöpons ad gudükön yegedis oksik, tän yegeds at pamoükons fa bal guvanas pos vig bal. If the authors don't react, or don't succeed in correcting their articles, then these articles are deleted by one of the admins after one week.

--Smeira 17:52, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]

What happens if somebody writes an article about, for example, his grandmother? Or about his company, which was founded in 2005 and has 25 employees? In other words, is there some kind of notability guidelines? Which template should be used for such cases instead of the (speedy?) {{Delete}}? --145.254.190.214 17:53, 2008 yanul 15id (UTC)Reply[reply]
We'll in principle follow the usual criteria for notability: if the person's grandmother doesn't happen to be sufficiently famous, or if no one other than the author him/herself can verify the data, then the article will be considered for deletion. But thus far no one has tried to do that; so, in a sense, it is a problem we don't anticipate we'll have any time soon. Hence the absence of a dedicated template. If such a case occurs -- if there's a Volapük speaker who wants to write an article about his/her own non-famous grandmother -- then we'll set policies for dealing with that. For the time being, {{Delete}} will do -- until there really is a of the kind you anticipate, and then new approaches (e.g. new deletion templates) will be developed. --Smeira 19:45, 2008 febul 27id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Mobob i, das yegeds löliko in püks votik (no Volapük, a.s. Linglänapük) muton pomoükön. Malafaya 14:35, 2008 mayul 14id (UTC)Reply[reply]

O Smeira, vilol-li penön padi ko mobs at? Volapük olik binon gudikum, ka obik :). Malafaya 14:41, 2008 mayul 14id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pad fädik, Klads, dugön[redakön fonäti]

Glidis! (Pidob vemo. No-nolob "navigation". I don't know the word for "navigation".) It may worth considering [1] disabling (or relegating) the "pad fadik" and replacing it with an index of articles, as in, e.g. [2]; and also consider making the Klads a more prominent means of navigation. This will lead readers to read the good articles; and the relative weight of the retäds would be reduced. - Hillgentleman 19:37, 2 yanul 2008 (UTC)

Glidis! (Navigation = nafam if you use the same maritime metaphor; at least one Volapükist I know doesn't like that and is looking for a less metaphorical description.) I don't see clearly the relation between the description of the use of bots on it.wp and the "pad fädik" link -- isn't it a link on all other Wikipedias? And it can be used for statistical purposes. Now, the idea of making Klads more visible as a navigation tool I find really interesting. How should we do that? (en.wp has only a few links to generic categories on the top of its main page; is this a good way to do that?) --Smeira 01:20, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
Glidis! You must have seen: someone comes, "pad fadik" a dozen times, and makes her conclusions. Well, we sometimes browse a dictionary this way, but this is not the best for a project under construction. (And by the way, hasn't Britannica got some one-liner entries? I don't remember.) It is my impression that you would yourself peace and quietous make if you behave professionally. Vukiped is a reference work. Make it useful. A good index is the key. - Hillgentleman 02:08, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
We can at least put links to the major categories, major portals, and an index in the most promenant position on the Cifapad. Now, whether that is enough is subjective. The question is what do you want people to see on the Cifapad. Do we want featured articles? perhaps. Do we want links to events happening on that date? And what do we want for the front page? At present, it would be 1. to entice new editors; and 2. to aid site navigation, ie guide the reader quickly to the information he seeks. The question is how to balance them. Hillgentleman 02:17, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
Some people also put Klad:Klads on the sidebar. (Langcom did that.) Hillgentleman 02:20, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
I basically agree with you. Do you have a suggestion as to a layout? En.wp has a few major categories on the main page and a link to a more detailed categorization. Is this a good idea? (Perhaps not; not very evident.) By the way, how do you add something to the sidebar? --Smeira 16:19, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
I have placed a link to Klad:Klads under 'Yegeds mä jäfüds' (= articles by discipline / area of interest / specialization) in the Cifapad. Do you think, Hillgentleman, that this is sufficiently visible? (One problem for newcomers: if they don't speak Volapük, they won't know what the options on the main page link to. Won't they in this case still prefer to go to 'Pads fädik'?) --Smeira 16:24, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
I believe a better design of the main page can help even those who do not speak Volapük (those Nuvola icons are really great). Maybe we should develop some proposals for a new main page with a bit more of imagery and more "vivid" colors. I'll look into it when I have a bit of time (weekend?). Malafaya 16:31, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
P.S. "Nafam" sidebar: Sitanuns:Sidebar.
What is this sidebar page? When I click on the link, I get the message that the page was deleted. How come? --Smeira 20:57, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
Curious. Apparently this messges is deprecated, it has been deleted from the software but it still has contents? Malafaya 21:35, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
This page is in a namespace better know as "mediaWiki:". That is where the sysops can fix their local interface messages (ie without having to hardcode them into the phps. Hillgentleman 22:16, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
Just go and edit it. C.f. meta:mediawiki:sidebar. Hillgentleman 22:17, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
But if we try to get MediaWiki:Sidebar here, we get a page that has already been deleted, and which has nothing to do with the sidebar that I see. How can we edit it? --Smeira 14:28, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Belated reply on mediawiki:sidebar: For example, if you want to test it, replace the line "** randompage-url|randompage" by "** Klad:Klads|Klads". Hillgentleman 01:08, 2008 febul 29id (UTC)Reply[reply]
My opinion: This is an encyclopaedia above all. It would be good to have direct access the entrances to the principal classifications

([+]Lekans [+] Nolavs [+] Rels [+] Sogäd [+] Spot [+] Telplänovapads) If the Klad is too big, create a portal for it and provide link to it instead. One more klickon away is one more chance for confusion. -Hillgentleman 22:23, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)

I agree that this should be an encyclopedia above all. I've added a link to Klad:Klads at the Main Page, and also a link to the Klad:Yegeds gudik (= good articles). Does this help, in your opinion? --Smeira 14:22, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Otuvob gudik "Willkommen bei Wikipedia" in de:Hauptseite.Hillgentleman 17:09, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Mob gudik. O Malafaya, vobol-li anu me Cifapad nulik? Kisi cedol-li dö mob ela Hillgentleman (= Lubelasöl) tefü Cifapad Deutänapükik? --Smeira 17:29, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Stedäliko, no löfilob mobi cifapada oba. Cifapad Deutänapükik binon balugik e, denu, löfilob oni plu. Dasumob mobi Lubelasöla (hiela Hillgentleman). Lönedükobsöd cifapadi et. :) --Malafaya 17:55, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]
P.S. Vilob dankön hieli Hillgentleman pro yuf omik in Vükiped. Malafaya 18:00, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeged avigo pevälöl (su cifapad)[redakön fonäti]

Mobob: man di Piltdown. Kisi cedols-li? (I mobob, das "yeged avigo pevälöl" övedon "yeged amulo pevälöl". Jiniko no kanons välön yegedi nulik ün vig alik... Obinos fasilikum ad dunön osi balna a mul.) --Smeira 16:00, 2008 yanul 7id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Si, toä yeged: man di Piltdown padönuon. E si, amulo pla avigo. Malafaya 16:04, 2008 yanul 7id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Peledunon. --Smeira 23:04, 2008 yanul 10id (UTC)Reply[reply]

BBC: Encyclopedia of life[redakön fonäti]

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7263134.stm

QUOTE
The project began in spring 2007. The encyclopedia now has placeholder pages for one million species, of which 30,000 have been populated with detailed information. There are also about a dozen highly developed multimedia pages giving a taster of what to expect in time from the EOL. Hillgentleman

Yeged amulo pevälöl[redakön fonäti]

Mob obik pro mäzul: Proxima Centauri (u ba matemat, if vilobs yegedi valemikum). Mobob i atosi as magod mula. --Smeira 17:22, 2008 febul 29id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeged gudik?[redakön fonäti]

Mobob yegedi: jenav as Yeged Gudik. E leigüpo mobob oni as yegedi mula pro mul okömöl: prilul. --Smeira 03:23, 2008 mäzul 10id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Baicedob ko ol. Malafaya 12:02, 2008 mäzul 10id (UTC)Reply[reply]

RfC — rethinking the list of the top ten wikipedias[redakön fonäti]

Please comment on the discussion at m:Top Ten Wikipedias (sorry if I posted on the wrong place). Waldir 19:37, 2008 mäzul 23id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tefü magods[redakön fonäti]

Soäsä kanols reidön in keblünot hiela Timichal löpo, mutobs dunön bosi tefü magods nelibik in Vükiped. Pos telspikot ko el Timichal, jinos, das magods te vemo nemödiks in Vükiped binons nelibiks. Äsagom, das kanom dalogön magodis obsik ad tuvön nelibikis e (a) moükön onis u (ä) plaädön onis me magods sümik se Kobädikos. Kisi cedols-li? Cedü ob, mob omik binon legudik! --Smeira 20:30, 2008 mäzul 25id (UTC)Reply[reply]

stütob. --Smeira 20:34, 2008 mäzul 25id (UTC)Reply[reply]
stütob. E cedob, das Kobädikos binonöv magad balik magodas (libik). Malafaya 10:43, 2008 mäzul 26id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Baicedob ko ol. Kobädikos mutonöv binön top balik. Ab sevobs, das en.wp (äsi eo.vp ed i vüks votik) labons nomis tefü "Geb Gidöfik" ("Fair Use"), kelos sinifon, das en.wp, eo.wp e r. kanons gebön magodis, kelis obs no kanobs gebön. Bi Volapük no binon pük netik läna semik, kanobsöv labön, id obs, nomis tefü "Geb Gidöfik". Ab cedob id ob, das Kobädikos binon gudikum. Tefü magods no libiks... Ah! c'est la vie... --Smeira 16:30, 2008 mäzul 26id (UTC)Reply[reply]
stütob. --Robert 11:30, 2008 mäzul 31id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adelo emoükob magodis anik kelis dabinons in Kobädikos. Malafaya 16:57, 2008 prilul 10id (UTC)Reply[reply]

We agree to disable local uploads and use images from Commons. Malafaya 14:39, 2008 prilul 14id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Betawiki update[redakön fonäti]

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Vöd: "partner(s)"[redakön fonäti]

Kio binon-li vöd Vp-ik pro "partner", e lio tradutoy-li linglänapükiki: "Partners in crime" ? (Atos binon pro pad de Dokan Kim.) Robert 12:46, 2008 yulul 29id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dabinon vöd "kompenätan" ab tradutod binon "parter (firm)", in Vödabuk hiela Midgley. Säkolös in grup ela Yahoo obsik. Malafaya 13:31, 2008 gustul 31id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Egebob vödi telef pro "partnership", so "partner(s)" = telefan(s) Robert 16:27, 2008 dekul 15id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yuf: Fuge[redakön fonäti]

I am not a Volapük speaker; I have tried to contribute an article fuge with the wiki-vudabuk b:Vödabuk Linglänapük-Volapük. I would appreciate any help in fixing it. Hillgentleman 04:07, 2008 gustul 7id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks, Hillgentleman. I'll take a look and see if I can fix it (if it needs any fixing). Malafaya 13:32, 2008 gustul 31id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! Have a good day! Hillgentleman 16:43, 2008 tobul 12id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Matemat e rel[redakön fonäti]

Labob säkis smalik in bespiks padas onsik. Robert 11:25, 2008 dekul 31id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Glidis, o Robert! Ya egespikob säkes olik su bespikapadas at. --Smeira 15:47, 2009 yanul 13id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Danis ole, o Sergio! Robert 11:22, 2009 yanul 15id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikimania 2009: Scholarships[redakön fonäti]

English: Wikimania 2009, this year's global event devoted to Wikimedia projects around the globe, is now accepting applications for scholarships to the conference. This year's conference will be handled from August 26-28 in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The scholarship can be used to help offset the costs of travel and registration. For more information, check the official information page. Please remember that the Call for Participation is still open, please submit your papers! Without submissions, Wikimania would not be nearly as fun!

Volapük: Please translate this message into your language. - Rjd0060 00:49, 2009 prilul 9id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kafetar votik[redakön fonäti]

Dabinon "kafetar votik" : el IRC-channel, keli kanoy tuvön is : [[3]]. Golö usio ad spikilön Volapüko!

Volapük features the most articles per speaker[redakön fonäti]

The Wikimeda Movement is in a one year process of strategic planning. Proposals are collected on strategy.wikimedia.org. Your input would be much appreciated. In the current fact finding phase people are looking for drivers of participation. A little research revealed that the Volapük Wikipedia features the greatest number of articles per speaker, see the top line entry in this table. What drives the activity in your community? Please tell us. Dedalus 17:59, 2009 gustul 19id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, Dedalus. I'm sorry but I didn't understand what you want us to do. You want to know what drives our community. Where should I write that? The links you provided don't seem to be surveys. Cheers, Malafaya 10:28, 2009 gustul 20id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi, Malafaya. Anywhere on this page, or on the talk page of that page on the strategy wiki. It isn't a survey, though if you browse the pages of the strategy wiki, you'll come across a lot of questions. Your input would be appreciated. Dedalus 13:28, 2009 gustul 21id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Small request[redakön fonäti]

Hello! I am a Polish wikipedian and I would like to ask you for writing a new article about former Polish President who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983 – Lech Wałęsa. I have looked for his article in your Wikipedia but without success. Polish Wikipedians will be grateful for your help. Thank you so much in advance! PS article in English you can find here. Best wishes from Poland, Patrol110 19:31, 2009 setul 21id (UTC)Reply[reply]


Translatewiki.net update[redakön fonäti]

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How can we improve the usability for your language[redakön fonäti]

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The best way to answer the first question is to visit the translatewiki.net. Change the language to your language, select the “vector” skin and add the advanced tool bar in in the preferences and check out the new functionality. And make some changes in your user page. When there is a need to improve on the localisation, please make the necessary changess . It should update your localisation straight away. We would like you to report each issue individually at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usability_issues.

When there are problems with the support of MediaWiki for your language, we really want to know about this. It is best to report each issue separately. In this way there will be no large mass of issues to resolve but we can address each issue on its own. Consider issues with the display of characters, the presentation of your script, the position of the side bar, the combination of text with other languages, scripts. It is best to try this in an environment like the prototype wiki as it provides you with a clean, basic and up to date environment. The prototype wiki is available for five languages but you can select any of them, change the preferences to your language and test out MediaWiki for your language.

We would like you to report each issue individually at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Languageissues. The issues you raise will all be assessed. It is important to keep each issue separate, because this will make it easier to understand the issues and find solutions.

PS This text has been approved by Naoko, Brion and Siebrand. Thanks, GerardM 21:00, 2009 setul 30id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Admin status[redakön fonäti]

Many of the most active editors on this wiki are bots. As a learner of Volapük I'd like to volunteer so that more oversight can be given. I run volapuk.com and am working on a number of Volapük publications. Evertype 17:36, 2012 yanul 22id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy to support this, Gmeijssen 17:37, 2012 yanul 22id (UTC)Reply[reply]
You have my support since you are a very active member of the Volapük community. Unfortunately, I'm not too active here and Geban:Smeira is missing in action. It would be great if someone could give this project a kick up. Let's just wait a few days for other (if any) voices to be heard. Malafaya 17:12, 2012 yanul 23id (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's fine. Evertype 14:49, 2012 yanul 27id (UTC)Reply[reply]

A few days has passed. Evertype 22:52, 2012 febul 2id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done. Malafaya 20:44, 2012 febul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Danö. Evertype 05:31, 2012 febul 11id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Language support group for Volapuk[redakön fonäti]

The Wikimedia Foundation has brought together a new team of developers who are dedicated to language support. This team is to support all the languages and consequently it is not realistic to expect that the team members can provide proper support for your language. It is for this reason that we are looking for volunteers who will make up a language support team.

This language support team will be asked to provide us with information about their language. Such information may need to be provided either to us or on a website that we will indicate to you. Another activity will be to test software that will likely have an effect on the running of the MediaWiki software. We are looking for people who clearly identify their ability. Formal knowledge is definitely appreciated.

As much of the activity will be concentrated on translatewiki.net, it will be a plus when team members know how to localise at translatewiki.net.
Thanks, Gmeijssen 17:37, 2012 yanul 22id (UTC)Reply[reply]

vowikibooks[redakön fonäti]

I started a discussion about closure of the above project. Regards. Ruslik0 (talk) 19:31, 2012 prilul 26id (UTC)Reply[reply]

The word "Vükiped"[redakön fonäti]

Hello. It seems to me, having looked at the morphology of Volapük, that the name of this wikipedia is badly formed. The first two letters, , are confusable with a preposition meaning "between" (corresponding to the prefix "inter-"), the last two letters, ed, are confusable with a common suffix, and the word as a whole is further blighted by the fact that the middle three letters, kip, are confusable with a root meaning "keep/retain". The word is thus highly ambiguous, and I wonder if it shouldn't be replaced. I understand there is a procedure for word coining whereby the Academy (the Kadäm) is consulted and then makes a decision. And I wonder who the person was who invented the word "Vükiped", and whether he/she had any contact with the Academy.

Hi. I don't have a clue. The word had already been adopted when I first came here. Let me just tell you that just because words seem to be composed of known prefixes/suffixes doesn't mean they are not allowed. In Volapük there are many words that start that way, with particles that match prefixes, and yet morphologically they are not prefixes: for example, "jied" (a bad concept for an example, I know :)) is not composed of prefix "ji-" and suffix "-ed". Regards, Malafaya (talk) 14:30, 2013 yanul 29id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Quality assurance: logging in[redakön fonäti]

In Linglänapük Hi, When I log in to vowiki, half the prompts are in Volapük, but half are in Linglänapük:

  • Use secure connection
  • Reset your password
  • Keep me logged in
  • Help with logging in

I confirmed this by clicking "Linglänapük" and checking the prompts there.
Also, if I log in using Sperantapük, I have an English prompt:

  • Reset your password

Cheers, Varlaam (talk) 19:07, 2013 yulul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi. This is because not all MediaWiki messages are translated. This is mainly because MediaWiki is not static and is continuously evolving. Thus, it's not easy to keep pace :). Malafaya (talk) 13:26, 2013 yulul 12id (UTC)Reply[reply]
No problem.
It's just so you are aware of the issue.
Cheers, Varlaam (talk) 00:02, 2013 yulul 13id (UTC)Reply[reply]

A small translation request[redakön fonäti]

Flag of Canada.svg Flag of Australia.svg Flag of New Zealand.svg In Linglänapük Hi, I have translated this book list -- en:Le Monde's 100 Books of the Century -- into 30 or 40 natural languages.
I thought I would try 2 artificial languages, Volapük and Esperanto. (The only artificial language I know is Nadsat, from A Clockwork Orange.)
What would be a good title for the page when I finish compiling the list?
Le Monde is the newspaper in Paris.
Thanks very much, Varlaam (talk) 19:25, 2013 yulul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Flag of South Africa.svg Flag of Bermuda.svg Flag of Gibraltar.svg Flag of Barbados.svg Flag of Trinidad and Tobago.svg Any suggestions for a page title? Thanks, Varlaam (talk) 15:21, 2013 yulul 9id (UTC)Reply[reply]

That would be Buks 100 Tumyela ela Le Monde. Regards, Malafaya (talk) 13:28, 2013 yulul 12id (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's fantastic. Thank you, Varlaam (talk) 00:01, 2013 yulul 13id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello again.
With help from Wiktionary, I have some column headings:
Nüm Calanem [?] Lautan Yel
1 The Stranger Albert Camus 1942
2 Pö suk tima peperöl Marcel Proust 19131927
But I don't trust this word "Calanem". It matches the German "Titel", but Titel has more than one meaning. And "calanem" is never actually used in vowiki.
What should "book title" be?
Thanks. Varlaam (talk) 16:37, 2013 yulul 16id (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not sure that "Calanem" is correct, but it does seem to mean title.[4] It might be a different sense of the word. Can someone confirm that "calanem" is correct? PiRSquared17 (talk) 21:41, 2013 yulul 16id (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, calanem is definitely not correct here. Book title is tiäd. Academic title is calanem. Shruggy (talk) 15:25, 2013 gustul 21id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pywikipedia is migrating to git[redakön fonäti]

Hello, Sorry for English but It's very important for bot operators so I hope someone translates this. Pywikipedia is migrating to Git so after July 26, SVN checkouts won't be updated If you're using Pywikipedia you have to switch to git, otherwise you will use out-dated framework and your bot might not work properly. There is a manual for doing that and a blog post explaining about this change in non-technical language. If you have question feel free to ask in mw:Manual talk:Pywikipediabot/Gerrit, mailing list, or in the IRC channel. Best Amir (via Global message delivery). 13:55, 2013 yulul 23id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cities in France[redakön fonäti]

Hi,

Could a sysop rename Saint-Amant (Charente) in Saint-Amant-de-Montmoreau ? (the old usual name, now official)

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 20:07, 2013 novul 9id (UTC)Reply[reply]

IMPORTANT: Admin activity review[redakön fonäti]

Hello. A new policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc) was recently adopted by global community consensus (your community received a notice about the discussion). According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on smaller wikis. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the new admin activity review here.


We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):

  1. Flauto Dolce (bureaucrat, administrator)
  2. ILVI (administrator)
  3. Manie (bureaucrat, administrator)

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No one needs free knowledge in Esperanto[redakön fonäti]

There is a current discussion on German Wikipedia on a decision of Asaf Bartov, Head of WMF Grants and Global South Partnerships, Wikimedia Foundation, who rejected a request for funding a proposal from wikipedians from eowiki one year ago with the explanation the existence, cultivation, and growth of the Esperanto Wikipedia does not advance our educational mission. No one needs free knowledge in Esperanto. On meta there has also started a discussion about that decision. --Holder (talk) 10:57, 2014 mayul 5id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nek nedon oni ab milans vilons oni. Robert (bespik) 15:59, 2015 dekul 24id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help for translate[redakön fonäti]

Hello and sorry for writing in English. Can anyone help me translate a small article (2 paragraphs) from English to your language and create the article in your wiki? Please, fell free to answer in my talk page in your wiki anytime. Thanks! Xaris333 (talk) 00:33, 2014 gustul 13id (UTC)Reply[reply]

IMPORTANT: Admin activity review[redakön fonäti]

Hello. A new policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc) was adopted by global community consensus in 2013. According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on smaller wikis. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the admin activity review.   We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):

  1. Evertype (administrator)

  These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.   However, if you as a community would like to create your own activity review process superseding the global one, want to make another decision about these inactive rights holders, or already have a policy that we missed, then please notify the stewards on Meta-Wiki so that we know not to proceed with the rights review on your wiki. Thanks, Rschen7754 19:57, 2015 yanul 31id (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's my intention to remain here with the powers that I have. Is this the right place to tell the community this? Evertype (talk) 22:08, 2015 febul 3id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Portobuffolé[redakön fonäti]

De geban ela 151.20.4.40 : I need to speak to an admin, may I ask you? It's about the problem of the article "Portobuffolé": it was disussed both in en.wikipedia and in it.wikipedia about the correct spelling, and it was established that it must have the acute accent. The following are some of the sources brought in the discussions, proving the correct spelling: [5] [6] [7] [8]. They're the most authoritative dictionaries and encyclopedias about Italian language and they all agree about the spelling. Also almost all other Wikis have already changed the uncorrect spellings, but there's a Dutch admin/rollbacker who's going against consensus and moving back a lot of pages on several Wikis to the uncorrect spelling, in this way actually vandalising the Wiki-pedia. Can you please move once for all the page "Portobuffolè" to "Portobuffolé", or delete the page "Portobuffolè" with the uncorrect spelling, please? If an admin of vo.wikipedia does it, this could prevent the Dutch rollbacker from keeping this senseless edit-war. Thank you in advance if you will! Robert (bespik) 14:14, 2016 yanul 22id (UTC)Reply[reply]

JavaScript[redakön fonäti]

Hi. I can see that this project has old JavaScript that needs to be updated. I would happily make the required updates myself, but I would have to – at least temporarily – become an admin here to do that (because the relevant pages are in the MediaWiki namespace). I have already made these updates on a number of other projects, so it would be very easy for me to do this. If no one does anything, some JavaScript-related tools will break later this year. If you want me to make these updates, you can grant me admin rights and I will make the updates as soon as I can. Nirmos (bespik) 21:45, 2016 yunul 8id (UTC)Reply[reply]

IMPORTANT: Admin activity review[redakön fonäti]

Hello. A new policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc) was adopted by global community consensus in 2013. According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on smaller wikis. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the admin activity review.

We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):

  1. Smeira (bureaucrat, administrator)

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Klad:Volapükans[redakön fonäti]

Hello! Sorry this is in English. I would like to point d:User talk:Kareyac#Your recent edits concerning Volupuk - Kareyac (bespik) 11:51, 2016 tobul 11id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help for translation[redakön fonäti]

Can anyone help me translate two small paragraphs (or correct my translation) from English to Volapük? Xaris333 (bespik) 22:59, 2017 prilul 28id (UTC)Reply[reply]

IMPORTANT: Admin activity review[redakön fonäti]

Hello. A policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc. ) was adopted by global community consensus in 2013. According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis with no inactivity policy. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the admin activity review.

We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):

  1. Evertype (administrator)

These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.

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This is a pretty dormant Wiki. It needs some kind of administration. But there really hasn't been anything to do. Evertype (bespik) 10:58, 2018 yulul 1id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Moteds e deadams[redakön fonäti]

Dear people, I've seen a lot of categories appearing under the titles "Moteds in XXXX" and "Deadams in XXXX". Unless I am gravely mistaken, this is incorrect in Volapük: in always refers to a place. When it refers to a year, ün should be used. In other words: "Moteds ün XXXX" or "Moteds ün yel XXXX". Regards, IJzeren Jan (bespik) 15:54, 2019 yanul 24id (UTC)Reply[reply]

IMPORTANT: Admin activity review[redakön fonäti]

Hello. A policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc. ) was adopted by global community consensus in 2013. According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis with no inactivity policy. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the admin activity review.

We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):

  1. Evertype (administrator)

These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.

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  • Not being modest, I'd like to say that Łukasz Winek might be a good admin, since he is active (unlike ...) and also has some language skills. --Wolverène (bespik) 08:03, 2021 yanul 8id (UTC)Reply[reply]

IMPORTANT: Admin activity review[redakön fonäti]

Hello. A policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, interface administrator, etc.) was adopted by global community consensus in 2013. According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis with no inactivity policy. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the admin activity review.

We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no logged actions for more than 2 years):

  1. Malafaya (administrator)

These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.

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Keeping admin rights (User:Malafaya)[redakön fonäti]

Hi, community.

You probably have seen the above information. Despite not being (very) active, I would still like to keep admin status here in Vükiped. Please, voice your opinions here below. Thanks, Malafaya (bespik) 11:44, 2022 yanul 4id (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • This is not really an opinion, but let me ask: why do you want this status if you don't use it anyway? I mean, not every admin has to be there 24/7, but ten small edits in more than eight years? A whole box full of stuff that was submitted for immediate deletion a long time ago but is still lingering? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work you've been doing here, but it seems like you haven't been really active here since 2010. IJzeren Jan (bespik) 23:24, 2022 yanul 20id (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • My intention was to keep at least an administrator in this project. But as you are coming forward as a candidate, I truly don't need to keep admin status, and I surely endorse your candidacy. Malafaya (bespik) 11:59, 2022 febul 4id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Opinions[redakön fonäti]

  • Keep I am probably the only active person here on Vükiped, I'm in favor of the user keeping the admin rights. Łukasz Winek (bespik) 21:57, 2022 yanul 14id (UTC) I'm withdrawing support. In my opinion, an active person should be an admin. Best regards, Łukasz Winek (bespik) 12:40, 2022 yanul 21id (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Malafaya, I am not against prolongation of your admin rights, but I would appreciate it if you'd at least answer the question I asked you. Will you at least be available once or twice a month to do some minimal maintenance and respond to questions? If so, then you have my support. IJzeren Jan (bespik) 16:49, 2022 yanul 30id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Malafaya's permission was removed today. Thanks for your input. Best regards, Stanglavine (bespik) 19:45, 2022 mäzul 14id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Guvanastadibegs / Request for admin status[redakön fonäti]

Hi all!

I'd like to request admin status on this wiki. I am aware of the fact that due to my rather demanding job I haven't been too active here during the last two years, but I still care a lot for the Vükiped, check up on it regularly and I keep having the feeling that it needs work. I've been participating here since 2005 (modestly, I admit), written a few articles myself and made nearly 2000 edits here. In general, I have been active on Wikipedia as a registered user since 2004, I have been a moderator and Arbcom member of nlwiki. At many occasions, I have considered requesting adminship here, but I simply don't feel like going through the same bureaucratic procedure every three months. Now I understand that permanent adminship is also possible here, and that made me decide to give it a try after all. And I encourage ‎Łukasz Winek to do the same: the more admins here the merrier.

What I'd really like to do is creating some order here, because at present, the Vükiped is in a deplorable state. Sergio Meira's past actions (creating massive amounts of bot-generated articles 15 years ago) have been successful in so far that Volapük made it into the top-10 of biggest Wikipedia editions for a while, which generated lots of attention from various sides, and fortunately, Vükiped survived efforts to have it closed. However, currently there is another problem, namely that at least 99.5% of the ca. 127K articles we have here are either generated by a bot or human-written oneliners of the type "[X] is a [Y] from [Z]" or "[X] is a [Y] in [Z]".

I am aware of the fact that this wiki is not primarily a place where Volapük speakers will be looking for information, but rather a place for showcasing Volapük itself. Since almost every article follows literally the same format, we are doing a poor job at that. Most bot-generated articles are completely outdated by now. And "real" articles with some critical mass (let's say: at least a few sentences written in decent Volapük, not counting infoboxes and the like) are almost impossible to find. The size of this wiki makes it practically unmanageable. My personal opinion is that Vükiped would be a lot better off with 500 real articles, but the least we can (and should) do is to find a way to distinguish them from the rest, for example by creating a special category, or by moving everything that does not meet certain criteria to a draftspace, or by deleting everything that has never been touched by a human hand, so to speak. Anyway, as far as there is still a community left over here, I'd like to have a discussion about these things.

Best regards, IJzeren Jan (bespik) 12:21, 2022 yanul 21id (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I absolutely endorse your candidacy as an administrator on this wiki, and thank you for encouraging me to do so. As for changes to this wiki, they are necessary - incl. on the home page, which has not been updated for many years. Changes should be necessary in some articles (I'm not saying that in all of them), especially those concerning countries of the world - they should be longer and contain specific information (an example of this is Rumän). In short, there is a lot to do here. Yours sincerely, Łukasz Winek (bespik) 22:13, 2022 yanul 29id (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Thank you! Indeed, the main page desperately needs work. Geban:Malafaya, would it be possible to unlock it, so that other users can work on it as well? And Łukasz, what would you suggest we could to to make this wiki somewhat more manageable? Cheers, IJzeren Jan (bespik) 16:43, 2022 yanul 30id (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Slopob (support). E baiädob das mutoy dunön bosi ko vükiped at, ab duliunam u topätükam yegedas 127000 jinon vobod nemögik. Vio vilol jenöfükön atosi? Nüm bal (bespik) 09:22, 2022 febul 9id (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Danö! Ogespikob linglänapüko, bi Volapükinol oba binon pestöböl. Tikob reto, das dabinanef isik suemon linglänapüki gudikumo.
    I know, it's complicated. Doing everything manually will be practically impossible and I have no experience whatsoever with handling a bot. For now, I've been going through the 10,000 largest articles in size and found ca. 150 truly presentable, human-written articles (interestingly, about 15% of them are about the Volapük movement and 30% of them are about paleontology, mostly dinosaurs). All remaining articles are either bot-generated articles about French and American towns and villages, a few of them are lists. Unfortunately, the list of long articles doesn't go further than 10,000 (which equals 2,318 characters), whereas a decent article in Volapük without an infobox can very well have 1,000 characters.
    Bot-generated articles are not necessarily a bad thing as long as they don't obscure the real articles. But right now, we have no less than 104,586 articles about cities, towns and villages (including 36,512 in France, 28,944 in the USA and 12,068 in Germany), virtually all of which are clones of each other. Some of them have technical mistakes (like this one that may never even have been noticed by anyone. And although articles like this or this actually look quite nice, is it really necessary for us to have the same text here 29K times? My suggestion would be to leave a few of these per country (say, only a few big cities) and delete the rest. I think a bot would be able to handle that. Cheers, IJzeren Jan (bespik) 13:44, 2022 febul 9id (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I would also be in favor of such a solution (although I could leave them all out of sentiment). I would suggest creating an infobox for cities, towns and villages (and if necessary - updating templates starting with "topam" - from this category:), because looking at articles about cities (even in these words made by me) - it does not look very good. This is my opinion. Yours sincerely, Łukasz Winek (bespik) 20:40, 2022 febul 9id (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Hehe, I absolutely share that sentiment, that's why I would definitely not delete all of them, but just 99% or so (which would still leave us with over a thousand). And yes, I started with one of those myself as well, before I even knew the basics of Volapük. But look at it from the positive side: the absence of an article might actually inspire someone to create it and thus learn about the language. And let's also consider that these articles no longer fulfill their original purpose: generating lots of attention for Volapük. BTW, I agree about the infobox, I'll try to make one. Which BTW is one more reason to delete articles that don't contain any information that isn't already contained in the infobox. Cheers, IJzeren Jan (bespik) 22:28, 2022 febul 9id (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bot-generated articles[redakön fonäti]

Dear all, it has been about five months since I became admin of this Wikipedia. As you may have noticed, I have reworked the Main Page, which hadn't been updated since about 13 years. My idea was to use a colour scheme more suitable for Volapük, a new featured article every day and a new featured image every week. Of course, ideas for further improvement are more than welcome! Besides, I have deleted some 10,000 pages, most of which were bot-generated microstubs, bot-generated pages with serious technical errors and broken redirects.

But instead of turning this into an admin report, there's something I'd like to hear opinions of others about. During the last few days, I have deleted over 2,500 towns in Romania, almost all of which were generated by Smeirabot. Going through each and every one of them, I noticed how problematic these things really are:

  • Only 11 of the bot-generated articles had ever been edited by a human (by adding an image, an external link or a link to Commons). One other one contained a heavily racist slur added some 12 years ago by an anonymous vandal (something like "All niggers must be killed").
  • About 5% of them had technical problems: links to non-existing images, pieces of unnecessarily copied Romanian text, wikicode errors, incorrectly copied data (f.ex. over 100,000 inhabitants for some hellhole with no inhabitants at all), etc.
  • For practically all of them goes that data are 20 years old.
  • What is worse: every single one of them is called zif ("city, town"), even when there are less than ten inhabitants. In other words, the bot didn't distinguish between zif, vilag and komot ("municipality"). I found the same mistake in the case of Dutch towns as well: municipalities consisting of a number of small villages were consistently called "zif". This is problematic, because it renders the information in these bot-generated articles utterly unreliable. Of course, one might argue: who cares, nobody comes here looking for information about Romanian villages anyway. My opinion is that there is no place here for information that is not just obsolete, but also seriously flawed.

So the question is: what shall we do about that? I was thinking about carrying on with Klad:Zifs_in_Jveizän (towns in Switzerland), but here we have the same problem: the 2653 towns listed here are in fact municipalities. Of course, many of them have an eponymous town in them, but not necessarily so. And besides, you can't tell me that a town with 104 inhabitants really deserves the name "zif". One solution could be to change the word "zif" to "komot" in every article. But not only would it be a hell of a job to do that manually, it also wouldn't solve the problem of maintainability, nor will it keep those articles from getting more and more outdated. Besides, the bot made other mistakes here as well. For example, Oberwil is said to have 10 inhabitants, although in reality is has over 11,000. Changing everything to "X binon komot in Jveizän" and having an infobox do the rest could solve that problem, but it would still leave us with 2653 articles that are merely clones of each other.

All in all, I can see three serious options here:

  • Delete all of them.
  • Delete everything with less than 10,000 inhabitants.
  • Delete everyting that hasn't been edited by anyone.
  • Just leave it be.

I'd be happy to hear your opinions! Cheers, Flag of Volapük.svg IJzeren Jan 14:59, 2022 yulul 23id (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would choose the second option, although the first option is also good. Łukasz Winek (bespik) 17:49, 2022 yulul 24id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you, that's pretty much what I had in mind myself as well. Deleting everything would go a bit too far IMO, but 10,000 should be a reasonable criterion that leave with something but not too much. I will delete all towns with less than 10,000 inhabints and leave those that have been edited by someone.
And what to do with towns in other countries? The ca. 4500 articles about places in Estonia distinguish correctly between towns and villages, but the number is still way too high. Same goes for Germany, Italy, France, Brazil and the USA. Flag of Volapük.svg IJzeren Jan 18:16, 2022 yulul 24id (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think it can be done in a similar way to Switzerland. Łukasz Winek (bespik) 18:56, 2022 yulul 25id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Indeed. as you can see, I have started with Estona. Estonia is a small country with not too many cities and towns, so I am currently deleting everything with less than 1000 inhabitants that hasn't been edited by anyone. The vast majority are villages with less than 100 inhabitants. Flag of Volapük.svg IJzeren Jan 19:01, 2022 yulul 25id (UTC)Reply[reply]
Estonia is done: from 4656 to 129 articles. Pretty decent, I believe. Romania and Switzerland are done, too. I'll try to make a beginning with Germany. There we have 12.061 articles. Same problem as in Switzerland: everything is called a "zif", even though it may as well be a (former) municipality or a village. I guess I'll follow the same approach as in the case of Switzerland: delete everything with less than 10,000 inhabitants, unless the article has been edited by someone, and unless the article is linked to from another article. Flag of Volapük.svg IJzeren Jan 13:01, 2022 yulul 27id (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Vector 2022 skin as the default in two weeks?[redakön fonäti]

The slides for our presentation at Wikimania 2022

Hello. I'm writing on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Web team. In two weeks, we would like to make the Vector 2022 skin the default on this wiki.

We have been working on it for the past three years. So far, it has been the default on more than 30 wikis, including sister projects, all accounting for more than 1 billion pageviews per month. On average 87% of active logged-in users of those wikis use Vector 2022.

It would become the default for all logged-out users, and also all logged-in users who currently use Vector legacy. Logged-in users can at any time switch to any other skins. No changes are expected for users of these skins.

About the skin[redakön fonäti]

[Why is a change necessary] The current default skin meets the needs of the readers and editors as these were 13 years ago. Since then, new users have begun using Wikimedia projects. The old Vector doesn't meet their needs.

[Objective] The objective for the new skin is to make the interface more welcoming and comfortable for readers and useful for advanced users. It draws inspiration from previous requests, the Community Wishlist Surveys, and gadgets and scripts. The work helped our code follow the standards and improve all other skins. We reduced PHP code in Wikimedia deployed skins by 75%. The project has also focused on making it easier to support gadgets and use APIs.

[Changes and test results] The skin introduces a series of changes that improve readability and usability. The new skin does not remove any functionality currently available on the Vector skin.

  • The sticky header makes it easier to find tools that editors use often. It decreases scrolling to the top of the page by 16%.
  • The new table of contents makes it easier to navigate to different sections. Readers and editors jumped to different sections of the page 50% more than with the old table of contents. It also looks a bit different on talk pages.
  • The new search bar is easier to find and makes it easier to find the correct search result from the list. This increased the amount of searches started by 30% on the wikis we tested on.
  • The skin does not negatively affect pageviews, edit rates, or account creation. There is evidence of increases in pageviews and account creation across partner communities.

[Try it out] Try out the new skin by going to the appearance tab in your preferences and selecting Vector 2022 from the list of skins.

How can editors change and customize this skin?[redakön fonäti]

It's possible to configure and personalize our changes. We support volunteers who create new gadgets and user scripts. Check out our repository for a list of currently available customizations, or add your own.

Our plan[redakön fonäti]

If no large concerns are raised, we plan on deploying in the week of October 3, 2022. If your community would like to request more time to discuss the changes, hit the button and write to us. We can adjust the calendar.

If you'd like ask our team anything, if you have questions, concerns, or additional thoughts, please ping me here or write on the talk page of the project. We will gladly answer! Also, see our FAQ. Thank you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 04:15, 2022 setul 22id (UTC)Reply[reply]