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[redakön] Guvans

Mobob moükami stada guvana de guvans:

Guvans at no ebinoms dunotik dü muls plu 6. Malafaya 12:03, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Veratö... Ab ba mutoy säkön omes, va viloms nog bitön as guvans. Openob bosi su bespikapads omsik (in Vükipeds votik). --Smeira 14:02, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Baicedob. Binos gudikum ad säkön omes, if sevol ladetis omsik. Begö, säkolös. (Pidob pro pük fibik oba :) ) --Malafaya 14:14, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Glidis! This is Jmb. You may remove my admin status if you want. I may be back from time to time to help out with editing pages. Fleniko, Jmb 01:39, 7 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Pük ai kanon vedön gudikum!... Ed ekö! mob votik:

Mobob gevami stada guvana ele:

Geban at ebinom vemo dunotik ün muls lätik, ed eyufom vemo ad gudükumön e jonükumön Vükipedi Volapükik (a.s. tefü koordinats e kaedil itjäfidik pro pads dö zifs vola; tefü samafomot: {{Yüm YG}}; tefü Kafetar at, keli ejafom; e r.). Üf guvans löpo pemäniotöls operoms guvanastadi oksik, jinos lü ob, das hiel Malafaya okanom plaädön omis e fövön vobi okik gönü Vükiped Volapükik mu benosekiko. --Smeira 14:47, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)

(paskanükob) Danö pro konfid olik in ob, o Smeira! Spelob, das kanob yufön gudikumo. --Malafaya 15:35, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Cedü ob okanol nendoto! :-) Bi nek esagon bosi ta mob obik, cälob oli guvani (ä bürani) anu. Benokömö! --Smeira 17:00, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)

So suno?! Danö! Osteifülob gudikünos obik. Malafaya 17:23, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Bi no nog dabinons gebans mödik is... Ab, if ek no baicedon ko stad nulik ola, ai kanon sagön bosi is. --Smeira 19:47, 6 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Glidis! I am Jmb
Hi Jmb! So, what are your plans? --Smeira 14:52, 7 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Jmb. You wrote above you don't mind your administrator status being removed. Thanks for the reply, Malafaya 14:55, 7 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Ebegob säguvanami gebana Jmb in m:Requests for permissions#Jmb.40vo.wikipedia. Danö. Malafaya 16:50, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)

[redakön] Vilags in Lestiyän

Soäsä pepenos in bespikapad zifa: Hageri, dabinon vo pök in pads anik tefü zifs (vilags) Lestiyänik: num: 58 (u 57 u 59) pekopiedon as lödanef, ab binon te koordinat. Suno odunob klad nulik ad konletön padis labü pök at, kelis poso okoräkob. --Smeira 14:26, 13 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Danö pro plän olik. Malafaya 15:15, 13 dekul 2007 (UTC)

[redakön] Vükiped dönu petatakon!

Soäsä ba ya sevols, dabinon mob votik ta Vükiped Volapükik su Meta: m:Proposals for closing projects/Radical cleanup of Volapük Wikipedia. If labols timi, reidolsös padi moba at e keyufolsös ad taön ta mob at! --Smeira 18:23, 27 dekul 2007 (UTC)

[redakön] Geb elas bots ad jafön yegedis nulik

In bespikapad tefü m:Proposals for closing projects/Radical cleanup of Volapük Wikipedia su Meta, ya anikna pesagos, das mutobs bespikön gebi elas bots ad jafön yegedis smalik nulik ("sids", a.s. tefü zifs e vilags). Kisi cedols-li? Stütols-li gebi soik, u taols-li ta on? (Utans, kels vilons gebön pükis votik -- a.s. Linglänapüki -- dalons dunön osi.)

  • stütob. Nüns in sids at binons nemödiks, ab binons i:
a) verätiks;
b) frutiks;
c) siklopediks (patuvons in Vükipeds votik)
Zuo sids at ai kanons pagretükön fa gebans nitedälöls.

--Smeira 22:44, 27 dekul 2007 (UTC)

  • stütob, ab cedob, das mutobs gudikön yegedis at vifik, e ba no jafön yegedis nulik pluik, pato tefü zifs. Mobob ad gudikobs yegedis vipabik e votik, e jafobs pads tefü Vükiped pro Komotanef as dranöf balid.

--Malafaya 00:54, 28 dekul 2007 (UTC)

Lio gudükön onis? I me bots? Me nüns pluik, se Vükipeds votik? (l. sidis se Vükiped Nedänapükik tefü zifs Fransänik, a.s. nl:Buchères) --Smeira 10:07, 28 dekul 2007 (UTC)
Si, me bots u redakams menik. Yegeds Nedänapükik logotons gudik saidik. No glömobsös de gudükön i yegeds votik (a.s. yegeds vipabik e läns). Malafaya 11:20, 28 dekul 2007 (UTC)

[redakön] Moükab

Parametis kinik mutoy-li gebön ad sludön, va yeged bal moükabon u no? Kisi cedols-li?Which parameters should we use to decide if an article should be deleted or not? What do you think?

Mob balid: Yegeds miniludik binons uts, kels: First proposal: suspicious articles are those that:
a. klüliko papenons ad nofön votikanis; are obviously written to offend others;
b. binons kopiedots vödemas labü kopiedagitäts; are copies of copyrighted texts;
c. no labons vödemi reidabik (in Volapük ud in pük votik seimik).do not have a readable text (in Volapük or any other language)
Yegeds sömik mutons getön sunädo samafomoti: {{Moükön}}.Such articles must immediately get the template {{Moükön}} (= remove).
Lautans yegedas sömik mutons getön (su bespikapad oksik) nunedi tefü nepöt yegedas oksik.The authors of such articles must immediately get a warning (on their talk pages) about the inappropriateness of their articles.
If lautans steifülons e plöpons ad gudükön yegedis oksik, yegeds ma fomam nulik oksik kanons blibön is.If the authors try and succeed in correcting their articles, then the articles in their new version can stay here.
If lautans no geükons, u no plöpons ad gudükön yegedis oksik, tän yegeds at pamoükons fa bal guvanas pos vig bal. If the authors don't react, or don't succeed in correcting their articles, then these articles are deleted by one of the admins after one week.

--Smeira 17:52, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)

What happens if somebody writes an article about, for example, his grandmother? Or about his company, which was founded in 2005 and has 25 employees? In other words, is there some kind of notability guidelines? Which template should be used for such cases instead of the (speedy?) {{Delete}}? --145.254.190.214 17:53, 2008 yanul 15id (UTC)
We'll in principle follow the usual criteria for notability: if the person's grandmother doesn't happen to be sufficiently famous, or if no one other than the author him/herself can verify the data, then the article will be considered for deletion. But thus far no one has tried to do that; so, in a sense, it is a problem we don't anticipate we'll have any time soon. Hence the absence of a dedicated template. If such a case occurs -- if there's a Volapük speaker who wants to write an article about his/her own non-famous grandmother -- then we'll set policies for dealing with that. For the time being, {{Delete}} will do -- until there really is a of the kind you anticipate, and then new approaches (e.g. new deletion templates) will be developed. --Smeira 19:45, 2008 febul 27id (UTC)
Mobob i, das yegeds löliko in püks votik (no Volapük, a.s. Linglänapük) muton pomoükön. Malafaya 14:35, 2008 mayul 14id (UTC)

O Smeira, vilol-li penön padi ko mobs at? Volapük olik binon gudikum, ka obik :). Malafaya 14:41, 2008 mayul 14id (UTC)

[redakön] Pad fädik, Klads, dugön

Glidis! (Pidob vemo. No-nolob "navigation". I don't know the word for "navigation".) It may worth considering [1] disabling (or relegating) the "pad fadik" and replacing it with an index of articles, as in, e.g. [2]; and also consider making the Klads a more prominent means of navigation. This will lead readers to read the good articles; and the relative weight of the retäds would be reduced. - Hillgentleman 19:37, 2 yanul 2008 (UTC)

Glidis! (Navigation = nafam if you use the same maritime metaphor; at least one Volapükist I know doesn't like that and is looking for a less metaphorical description.) I don't see clearly the relation between the description of the use of bots on it.wp and the "pad fädik" link -- isn't it a link on all other Wikipedias? And it can be used for statistical purposes. Now, the idea of making Klads more visible as a navigation tool I find really interesting. How should we do that? (en.wp has only a few links to generic categories on the top of its main page; is this a good way to do that?) --Smeira 01:20, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
Glidis! You must have seen: someone comes, "pad fadik" a dozen times, and makes her conclusions. Well, we sometimes browse a dictionary this way, but this is not the best for a project under construction. (And by the way, hasn't Britannica got some one-liner entries? I don't remember.) It is my impression that you would yourself peace and quietous make if you behave professionally. Vukiped is a reference work. Make it useful. A good index is the key. - Hillgentleman 02:08, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
We can at least put links to the major categories, major portals, and an index in the most promenant position on the Cifapad. Now, whether that is enough is subjective. The question is what do you want people to see on the Cifapad. Do we want featured articles? perhaps. Do we want links to events happening on that date? And what do we want for the front page? At present, it would be 1. to entice new editors; and 2. to aid site navigation, ie guide the reader quickly to the information he seeks. The question is how to balance them. Hillgentleman 02:17, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
Some people also put Klad:Klads on the sidebar. (Langcom did that.) Hillgentleman 02:20, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
I basically agree with you. Do you have a suggestion as to a layout? En.wp has a few major categories on the main page and a link to a more detailed categorization. Is this a good idea? (Perhaps not; not very evident.) By the way, how do you add something to the sidebar? --Smeira 16:19, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
I have placed a link to Klad:Klads under 'Yegeds mä jäfüds' (= articles by discipline / area of interest / specialization) in the Cifapad. Do you think, Hillgentleman, that this is sufficiently visible? (One problem for newcomers: if they don't speak Volapük, they won't know what the options on the main page link to. Won't they in this case still prefer to go to 'Pads fädik'?) --Smeira 16:24, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
I believe a better design of the main page can help even those who do not speak Volapük (those Nuvola icons are really great). Maybe we should develop some proposals for a new main page with a bit more of imagery and more "vivid" colors. I'll look into it when I have a bit of time (weekend?). Malafaya 16:31, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
P.S. "Nafam" sidebar: Sitanuns:Sidebar.
What is this sidebar page? When I click on the link, I get the message that the page was deleted. How come? --Smeira 20:57, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
Curious. Apparently this messges is deprecated, it has been deleted from the software but it still has contents? Malafaya 21:35, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
This page is in a namespace better know as "mediaWiki:". That is where the sysops can fix their local interface messages (ie without having to hardcode them into the phps. Hillgentleman 22:16, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
Just go and edit it. C.f. meta:mediawiki:sidebar. Hillgentleman 22:17, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)
But if we try to get MediaWiki:Sidebar here, we get a page that has already been deleted, and which has nothing to do with the sidebar that I see. How can we edit it? --Smeira 14:28, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)
Belated reply on mediawiki:sidebar: For example, if you want to test it, replace the line "** randompage-url|randompage" by "** Klad:Klads|Klads". Hillgentleman 01:08, 2008 febul 29id (UTC)
My opinion: This is an encyclopaedia above all. It would be good to have direct access the entrances to the principal classifications

([+]Lekans [+] Nolavs [+] Rels [+] Sogäd [+] Spot [+] Telplänovapads) If the Klad is too big, create a portal for it and provide link to it instead. One more klickon away is one more chance for confusion. -Hillgentleman 22:23, 3 yanul 2008 (UTC)

I agree that this should be an encyclopedia above all. I've added a link to Klad:Klads at the Main Page, and also a link to the Klad:Yegeds gudik (= good articles). Does this help, in your opinion? --Smeira 14:22, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)
Otuvob gudik "Willkommen bei Wikipedia" in de:Hauptseite.Hillgentleman 17:09, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)
Mob gudik. O Malafaya, vobol-li anu me Cifapad nulik? Kisi cedol-li dö mob ela Hillgentleman (= Lubelasöl) tefü Cifapad Deutänapükik? --Smeira 17:29, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)
Stedäliko, no löfilob mobi cifapada oba. Cifapad Deutänapükik binon balugik e, denu, löfilob oni plu. Dasumob mobi Lubelasöla (hiela Hillgentleman). Lönedükobsöd cifapadi et. :) --Malafaya 17:55, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)
P.S. Vilob dankön hieli Hillgentleman pro yuf omik in Vükiped. Malafaya 18:00, 2008 yanul 5id (UTC)

[redakön] Yeged avigo pevälöl (su cifapad)

Mobob: man di Piltdown. Kisi cedols-li? (I mobob, das "yeged avigo pevälöl" övedon "yeged amulo pevälöl". Jiniko no kanons välön yegedi nulik ün vig alik... Obinos fasilikum ad dunön osi balna a mul.) --Smeira 16:00, 2008 yanul 7id (UTC)

Si, toä yeged: man di Piltdown padönuon. E si, amulo pla avigo. Malafaya 16:04, 2008 yanul 7id (UTC)
Peledunon. --Smeira 23:04, 2008 yanul 10id (UTC)

[redakön] BBC: Encyclopedia of life

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7263134.stm

QUOTE
The project began in spring 2007. The encyclopedia now has placeholder pages for one million species, of which 30,000 have been populated with detailed information. There are also about a dozen highly developed multimedia pages giving a taster of what to expect in time from the EOL. Hillgentleman

[redakön] Yeged amulo pevälöl

Mob obik pro mäzul: Proxima Centauri (u ba matemat, if vilobs yegedi valemikum). Mobob i atosi as magod mula. --Smeira 17:22, 2008 febul 29id (UTC)

[redakön] Yeged gudik?

Mobob yegedi: jenav as Yeged Gudik. E leigüpo mobob oni as yegedi mula pro mul okömöl: prilul. --Smeira 03:23, 2008 mäzul 10id (UTC)

Baicedob ko ol. Malafaya 12:02, 2008 mäzul 10id (UTC)

[redakön] RfC — rethinking the list of the top ten wikipedias

Please comment on the discussion at m:Top Ten Wikipedias (sorry if I posted on the wrong place). Waldir 19:37, 2008 mäzul 23id (UTC)

[redakön] Exemption doctrine policy

Hello. As you might know, the Wikimedia Foundation approved a resolution concerning non-free images more than a year ago. The resolution says that unless Wikimedia projects create an exemption doctrine policy (EDP) for non-free images, all of those images shall be deleted by March 23, 2008 (which was yesterday). We'd now like to gather information from the projects about their exemption policies in one place so we can check their validity, and if images on those projects are in accordance with the Foundation's resolution. Your project is one of these we don't have information about, so it'd be great if you could add it to the page listing all EDPs, meta:Non-free_content. If you have any questions about the page or don't have an EDP yet and want one, you can use the appropriate talkpage on Meta or just contact me directly on Meta or by e-mail (however, please note that I'm just a volunteer and therefore not in a position to give any official advice). Thanks for your cooperation! Timichal 18:00, 2008 mäzul 24id (UTC)

[redakön] Tefü magods

Soäsä kanols reidön in keblünot hiela Timichal löpo, mutobs dunön bosi tefü magods nelibik in Vükiped. Pos telspikot ko el Timichal, jinos, das magods te vemo nemödiks in Vükiped binons nelibiks. Äsagom, das kanom dalogön magodis obsik ad tuvön nelibikis e (a) moükön onis u (ä) plaädön onis me magods sümik se Kobädikos. Kisi cedols-li? Cedü ob, mob omik binon legudik! --Smeira 20:30, 2008 mäzul 25id (UTC)

stütob. --Smeira 20:34, 2008 mäzul 25id (UTC)
stütob. E cedob, das Kobädikos binonöv magad balik magodas (libik). Malafaya 10:43, 2008 mäzul 26id (UTC)
Baicedob ko ol. Kobädikos mutonöv binön top balik. Ab sevobs, das en.wp (äsi eo.vp ed i vüks votik) labons nomis tefü "Geb Gidöfik" ("Fair Use"), kelos sinifon, das en.wp, eo.wp e r. kanons gebön magodis, kelis obs no kanobs gebön. Bi Volapük no binon pük netik läna semik, kanobsöv labön, id obs, nomis tefü "Geb Gidöfik". Ab cedob id ob, das Kobädikos binon gudikum. Tefü magods no libiks... Ah! c'est la vie... --Smeira 16:30, 2008 mäzul 26id (UTC)
stütob. --Robert 11:30, 2008 mäzul 31id (UTC)

Adelo pamoükob magodis anik kelis dabinons in Kobädikos. Malafaya 16:57, 2008 prilul 10id (UTC)

We agree to disable local uploads and use images from Commons. Malafaya 14:39, 2008 prilul 14id (UTC)

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